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From: bj...@wam.umd.edu (Byung-Joon Ahn)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: Internet access from local dial-ins
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Date: 10 Apr 91 23:07:00 GMT
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I think someone should compile a list of all the sites or numbers that
people can call in to get telnet access or internet acces. A list for the
numbers in the various regions would be handy.
As you know every other post is about where can I get info about
dial-in to internet in area code ???. It would be more efficient if someone
made a list and posted ir regularly for the new users.
Also, I think someone out there have a list of sites that have local
dial-outs to local BBS, etc. Someone post this as well. Don't be too greedy
and share the wealth.
B.J.
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From: rai...@Control.COM (Robert Raisch)
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Subject: Re: Internet access from local dial-ins
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Date: 11 Apr 91 14:51:47 GMT
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bj...@wam.umd.edu (Byung-Joon Ahn) writes:
>I think someone should compile a list of all the sites or numbers that
>people can call in to get telnet access or internet acces.
Well, that *would* be nice, but it won't happen.
What you are asking for is a list of company or university specific
dial in numbers to access the Internet. Has it occurred to you that
those companies and universities may not want to have every young
hacker calling their net-access numbers and using up valuable resources
to the detriment of their own users?
If you *really* need net-access that badly, pay for it, like the rest
of us. There are companies, (UUNET, PSI), who make net connects available
to anyone willing to pay.
> Also, I think someone out there have a list of sites that have local
>dial-outs to local BBS, etc.
Are you kidding? Who pays for that, do you think?
>B.J.
/rr
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From: elma...@leland.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: Re: Internet access from local dial-ins
Message-ID: <1991Apr11.234043.6516@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Date: 11 Apr 91 23:40:43 GMT
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In article <1...@cthulhuControl.COM> rai...@Control.COM (Robert Raisch) writes:
>bj...@wam.umd.edu (Byung-Joon Ahn) writes:
>
>>I think someone should compile a list of all the sites or numbers that
>>people can call in to get telnet access or internet acces.
>
>Well, that *would* be nice, but it won't happen.
>
>What you are asking for is a list of company or university specific
>dial in numbers to access the Internet. Has it occurred to you that
>those companies and universities may not want to have every young
>hacker calling their net-access numbers and using up valuable resources
>to the detriment of their own users?
>
>If you *really* need net-access that badly, pay for it, like the rest
>of us. There are companies, (UUNET, PSI), who make net connects available
>to anyone willing to pay.
>
>> Also, I think someone out there have a list of sites that have local
>>dial-outs to local BBS, etc.
>
>Are you kidding? Who pays for that, do you think?
>
>>B.J.
>
>/rr
>--
>"I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti." -Lector
I think that it's true that most universities don't want every hacker
around dialing up their computers and trying to get access.
However, it WOULD be nice to compile at least a partial list of
commercial and public access systems with Internet mail/Usenet/etc.
access. This list would NOT include private-access university
systems, or corporate systems. Only public access systems with
Internet access.
If I had time, i'd volunteer to coordinate it, but I'm taking 18 units
of classes this quarter and working 10 hours a week...
Adam Elman
elma...@leland.stanford.edu
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From: j...@tygra.UUCP (John Palmer)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: Re: Internet access from local dial-ins
Message-ID: <1991Apr11.201757.29591@tygra.UUCP>
Date: 11 Apr 91 20:17:57 GMT
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In article <1...@cthulhuControl.COM> rai...@Control.COM (Robert Raisch) writes:
:bj...@wam.umd.edu (Byung-Joon Ahn) writes:
:
:>I think someone should compile a list of all the sites or numbers that
:>people can call in to get telnet access or internet acces.
:
:Well, that *would* be nice, but it won't happen.
:
:What you are asking for is a list of company or university specific
:dial in numbers to access the Internet. Has it occurred to you that
:those companies and universities may not want to have every young
:hacker calling their net-access numbers and using up valuable resources
:to the detriment of their own users?
:
:If you *really* need net-access that badly, pay for it, like the rest
:of us. There are companies, (UUNET, PSI), who make net connects available
:to anyone willing to pay.
:
:> Also, I think someone out there have a list of sites that have local
:>dial-outs to local BBS, etc.
:
:Are you kidding? Who pays for that, do you think?
:
There have been several postings in the past few months by a three
different people asking similar things. One guy (hehe) asked (hahaha)
if there were any (hohohoho) numbers whereby someone could telnet in
and get an outdial modem to be able to dial anywhere he/she wanted
(hahahah - what a laugh!!).
I can give you two phone numbers:
UUNET: 703-876-5050
PSINET: 1-800-82PSI82
Nope - those arent data lines, but voice lines - their billing departments.
UUNET costs $36/month PLUS freight (freight=telecom charges, either by
TELENET/SPRINTNET, Compuserve, or their 900 number).
PSINet can set you up with a genuine Internet (thats right, boys and
girls - INTERNET) link via 9600bps V.32 dialup SLIP. Oh, did I mention
that it cost only $175/month? That *REALLY* is a good deal, though.
(Disclaimer: I don't work for either company - just a satisfied customer
of both).
John Palmer
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From: am...@andrew.cmu.edu (Alexander Paul Morris)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: Re: Internet access from local dial-ins
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Date: 12 Apr 91 16:43:55 GMT
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When you say PSInet has a genuine internet connection, what do you mean
(like opposed to the other system). Are you saying the PSInet gives you
ftp capabilities and finger capabilities, whereas the other (cheaper
system) does not?
Alexander Morris "People die, things change...
Carnegie Mellon It's sad."
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From: bren...@cs.widener.edu (Brendan Kehoe)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: Re: Internet access from local dial-ins
Message-ID: <4LZ_T+C@cs.widener.edu>
Date: 12 Apr 91 20:41:56 GMT
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In <wc1SD=K00aw_43f...@andrew.cmu.edu>, am...@andrew.cmu.edu writes:
>When you say PSInet has a genuine internet connection, what do you mean
>(like opposed to the other system). Are you saying the PSInet gives you
>ftp capabilities and finger capabilities, whereas the other (cheaper
>system) does not?
PSI, along with UUnet (Alternet), and CERFnet (california), will
provide you with as high a level of connectivity that ya want, from
a normal UUCP email link all the way to 38.4k SLIP lines; possibly
even higher.
Brendan
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From: p...@ls.com (Phil Eschallier)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: Re: Internet access from local dial-ins
Message-ID: <5072@lgnp1.ls.com>
Date: 12 Apr 91 12:59:48 GMT
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In article <MMISKOWI.91Apr11185...@dante.nmsu.edu> mmisk...@nmsu.edu (Michael Miskowicz) writes:
>In article <1991Apr11.234043.6...@leland.Stanford.EDU> elma...@leland.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman) writes:
>> However, it WOULD be nice to compile at least a partial list of
>> commercial and public access systems with Internet mail/Usenet/etc.
>> access. This list would NOT include private-access university
>> systems, or corporate systems. Only public access systems with
>> Internet access.
>Just sayin' that I agree with you. Anyone free enough to take on the
>effort?
>
i do not know about commercial, put the public access (actually
sites w/ some form of open access via modem) is kept in the
nixpub lists (long and short) ... not all of these sites are
free but all over modem access to first time callers.
this list has been around for some time now. i have been keeping
this list for several years and before me, wayne ross (who was
the originator) maintained it.
it is posted to alt.bbs and comp.misc once or twice per month.
it can also be obtained via the nixpub mailing list (send mail
to nixpub-list-requ...@ls.com for more info) and can also be
obtained from various anonyomous uucp and ftp sites.
this is not a list of internet sites (although some are on
the internet). it has been my experience that most sites on
the internet want nothing to do with public access -- it could
be a huge liability!!
--
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From: j...@tygra.UUCP (John Palmer)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: Re: Internet access from local dial-ins
Message-ID: <1991Apr13.093922.12840@tygra.UUCP>
Date: 13 Apr 91 09:39:22 GMT
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In article <wc1SD=K00aw_43f...@andrew.cmu.edu> am...@andrew.cmu.edu (Alexander Paul Morris) writes:
:When you say PSInet has a genuine internet connection, what do you mean
:(like opposed to the other system). Are you saying the PSInet gives you
:ftp capabilities and finger capabilities, whereas the other (cheaper
:system) does not?
:
Yes. With HOST-DCS, you get to dial up to their concentrators and establish
a SLIP connection which will allow you to do all of those nice things like
FTP and TELNET. The one problem is that they don't assign you a real address
so others can't get to you (via FTP and TELNET, etc). I've sent e-mail to
their rep. asking why, but she seems to be on a perpetual vacation.
Anyways, it is a nice service. Could use some improvements, but hey - for
$175/month - I'm not complaining.
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