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From: r...@lgnp1.LS.COM (Super user)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: Help with net politics
Keywords: NET POLITICS
Message-ID: <5301@lgnp1.LS.COM>
Date: 16 Jan 90 22:26:53 GMT
Reply-To: r...@lgnp1.LS.COM (Super user)
Organization: Lagniappe Systems [Doylestown PA]
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i have never posted to news.admin before and i hope this is the correct
place for this plea for help.
i maintain the nixpub lists and have been doing so for about 14 months.
during this time i have been posting updates to these lists (long and
short) to pubnet.nixpub w/ cross postings to comp.misc and alt.bbs. about
2 month ago, chem.ecsd.edu start running a daemon that is re-posting each
and every article posted to pubnet.nixpub.
i realize that pubnet is an alternate hierarchy but i am starting to get
pissed off and need advice. i have been in touch with the usenet news admin
there and he says that some site thinks that pubnet.nixpub is moderated and
his site is just forwarding postings for the moderator -- he will not correct
the situation. others have suggested that he is mis-managing a mailing list.
i have been getting a number of complaints from folks on the net about mis-use
of net bandwidth. i don't really care that people are complaining to me, it
is his domain that is the offender. what i need is some kind of advice as to
what i can do to correct this problem. -- i have sent out 5 control messages
(newgroup) in the last month to flag pubnet.nixpub as unmoderated but this
has not cured the problem.
if this is not the proper group, would someone please direct me as to where
i can get help. please e-mail responses ...
one frustrated admin,
phil
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Phil Eschallier
System Administration for lgnp1 -- Mail/News gateway for LS.COM
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From: r...@lgnp1.LS.COM (Super user)
Newsgroups: news.config
Subject: Net Politics
Keywords: NET POLITICS
Message-ID: <5303@lgnp1.LS.COM>
Date: 22 Jan 90 21:59:14 GMT
Reply-To: r...@lgnp1.LS.COM (Super user)
Organization: Lagniappe Systems [Doylestown PA]
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hello netlanders,
i'd like to post this article to thank all who have responded to my request
for help/advice with usenet politics. i received a slew of mail in response
to my previous posting and ALL of it contained responses such as "his software
is severely broken" or "sounds like he is mis-managing a mail list or e-mail
to news gateway". -- i knew his software/configuration is hosed [slightly],
THAT IS WHY I WAS ASKING FOR HELP WITH ``NET POLITICS''.
as i stated in my last posting i am having a problem with chem.ecsd.edu
reposting news articles. this site/domain reposts any and all articles posted
pubnet.nixpub. i mentioned that i had been in contact with the admin for the
offending site and he told me that he could only correct the problem if the
site stopped forwarding the group. he explained that apparently some site
thinks that this pubnet.nixpub is moderated and his site just re-acting. at
his suggestion, i sent out several control messages (over the course of the
last month) -- this, of course, did not solve anything. the group is NOT
moderated and shouldn't be marked as such.
i am sure this would be a much more pressing issue if the problem group were
in comp, news, rec ... but it is not. my question is what do i do at this
point?? i could continue to ask the admin out there to fix it, i could find
some governing usenet body -- i have never heard of one but maybe i have
missed something, i could just put up with it, or i could stop posting my
lists to that group.
any ideas ??
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Phil Eschallier
System Administration for lgnp1 -- Mail/News gateway for LS.COM
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From: b...@becker.UUCP (Bruce Becker)
Newsgroups: news.config,pubnet.config
Subject: Re: Net Politics
Keywords: NET POLITICS
Message-ID: <2826@becker.UUCP>
Date: 24 Jan 90 20:47:30 GMT
References: <5303@lgnp1.LS.COM>
Reply-To: b...@becker.UUCP (Bruce Becker)
Organization: G. T. S., Toronto, Ontario
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In article <5...@lgnp1.LS.COM> r...@lgnp1.LS.COM (Super user) writes:
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|as i stated in my last posting i am having a problem with chem.ecsd.edu
|reposting news articles. this site/domain reposts any and all articles posted
|pubnet.nixpub. i mentioned that i had been in contact with the admin for the
|offending site and he told me that he could only correct the problem if the
|site stopped forwarding the group. he explained that apparently some site
|thinks that this pubnet.nixpub is moderated and his site just re-acting. at
|his suggestion, i sent out several control messages (over the course of the
|last month) -- this, of course, did not solve anything. the group is NOT
|moderated and shouldn't be marked as such.
As far as I know the result of a moderated
group is to mail the article to the moderator,
usually via a backbone site (unless they're
running News 2.10 or something).
If some site erroneously has "pubnet.nixpub"
marked moderated, they would mail posted articles
to "uunet!pubnet-nixpub", or to the site that's
listed as "backbone" in the mailpaths file.
There's no way it should get reposted unless
somebody's software is broken somewhere.
Either the admin at the offending site has
configured things wrong, or else he should be
trying to help find out the name of "some site"
by sending you the information from the "Path:"
header line of some selected "pubnet.nixpub"
articles from his site. You might try to arrange
this with him and then post a test article or 2.
It may be that someone downstream has hacked
news on a personal machine and hasn't quite
understood how it all works in every detail...
Good luck,
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