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From: Tim Shoppa <SHOPPA@trailing-edge.com>
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Subject: Re: Some nice progress with hardware and Ultrix in the PUPS archive
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>   As I was thinking about how else can I get correctly written Ultrix
>tapes, the following idea sneaked into my mind. The PUPS archive already
>contains PDP-11 Ultrix. How about VAX Ultrix?

As Warren pointed out, there might be a problem with putting such
tapes on the PUPS archive.  I'd be glad to run off TK50's from images
for you, though I think your earlier idea, about installing from
the miniroot image that's commonly put on 4.2- and 4.3BSD derived
distributions, is a *far* better idea as it avoids using a TK50
tape drive at all.

It's not that tape copies are bad ideas - it's just that TK50's
are so slow.  If you were coming from 9-track or DLT or something
fast, that wouldn't be so bad.

If you can get just about any OS running on your
Q-bus machine, under any CPU - i.e. NetBSD, RT-11, 2.11BSD, RSX,
whatever you might have - then you can just write the miniroot
straight to a "scratch" disk.  You can also write the root
dump and tar savesets straight to another scratch disk, in "raw"
format, if you desire.

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