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From: "Erin W. Corliss" < erin@coffee.corliss.net>
To: pups@minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au
Subject: 2.11BSD
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I know you've all been on the edge of your seats waiting for this, but...

I finally got my PDP-11/73 working, using a wyse terminal instead of my PC
-- for some reason neither of the serial ports were sending on the PC (but
then again, I boughtthe motherboard in an alley in korea three years
ago)...  Anyway, it boots up with RSTS/E version 9, which is OK in it's
own little way, I guess, but I'd rather be running Unix on it.  

So where can I download the binaries for 2.11BSD?

	-- Erin Corliss

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Subject: Re: 2.11BSD (but no src license)
To: grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey)
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In article by Greg Lehey:
> On Friday, 25 December 1998 at 23:09:48 -0800, Erin W. Corliss wrote:
> > On Sat, 26 Dec 1998, Greg Lehey wrote:
> >> Do you have an Ancient UNIX license?  I don't see you in our list.
> >> You'll need one before we can give you a copy of the software.
> >
> > Nope.  I have a licensed copy of RSTS/E I could trade, though...  8^)  No,
> > actually, I think I found another source for it, but thanks for the
> > concern.
> 
> PUPS is very glad to have been able to have created the possibility of
> legally using these old versions of UNIX.  Please don't make things
> difficult by abusing somebody's cooperation.  You can get it legally;
> see http://minnie.cs.adfa.oz.au/PUPS/getlicense.html for more details.
> 
> Greg

What Greg says is true: we can't give you access to any UNIX source
code unless you have a UNIX source license from SCO. However....
I should ask Dion at SCO if we could distribute binary-only distributions
of 2.x BSD without a license. After all, freely distributable binary-only
distributions for v5, v6, v7 and Venix (System III-ish) exist.

Just a thought, but for now you do need a source license.

Cheers,
	Warren

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From: "Erin W. Corliss" < erin@coffee.corliss.net>
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Subject: Twist of Fate...
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So get this -- Matt Kjaer, a friend of a friend of mine and the person who
originally got me interested in PDP's, works at the University of Oregon
computing center.  He claims that if he can dig it up, the University of
Oregon has an original Unix license for PDP-11's.  I'm not sure what
version of Unix it is or if it's even from SCO, but assuming it is, where
do we fax/mail/deliver/etc a copy of it to get access to the legendary
protected FTP directory with the source codes?

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In article by Erin W. Corliss:
> 
> So get this -- Matt Kjaer, a friend of a friend of mine and the person who
> originally got me interested in PDP's, works at the University of Oregon
> computing center.  He claims that if he can dig it up, the University of
> Oregon has an original Unix license for PDP-11's.  I'm not sure what
> version of Unix it is or if it's even from SCO, but assuming it is, where
> do we fax/mail/deliver/etc a copy of it to get access to the legendary
> protected FTP directory with the source codes?

Fax a copy to me (the pages giving the license owner, the license number,
the list of operating systems covered, the list of CPUs covered, and the
signatures), and then get Matt to email me!

As per usual, I need to send back access details securely. A fax number
or a means of obtaining a PGP key will allow me to do this.

Cheers,
	Warren

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In article by Erin W. Corliss:
> On Thu, 7 Jan 1999, Warren Toomey wrote:
> 
> > Fax a copy to me (the pages giving the license owner, the license number,
> > the list of operating systems covered, the list of CPUs covered, and the
> > signatures), and then get Matt to email me!
> 
> What's your fax number?

Damn, I knew I'd forget to put that in!

Warren:		+61 2 6268 8581

Ciao,
	Warren