From: hams...@lord.banki.hu (Akos Varga) Subject: a stupid question Date: 1997/10/19 Message-ID: <62dt9a$oud$1@goliat.eik.bme.hu>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 281835943 Reply-To: hams...@netweb.hu Organization: Banki Donat Polytechnic, Budapest Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11 Well, it may be silly to ask, but I'd like to know what OSs ran on members of the MicroPDP-family... Thanks for your time! Akos Varga hams...@netweb.hu
From: Bill Pechter <pech...@lakewood.com> Subject: Re: a stupid question Date: 1997/10/19 Message-ID: <199710192334.TAA18669@i4got.lakewood.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 281863933 X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List Organization: Info-Pdp11<==>Vmsnet.Pdp-11 Gateway Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11 > Well, it may be silly to ask, but I'd like to know > what OSs ran on members of the MicroPDP-family... > > Thanks for your time! > Akos Varga > hams...@netweb.hu > RSX11, RSX11M+, RSTS/E, IAS (Probably), RT11, V7M11 (Probably) (later named Ultrix-11), BSD v2.x. Bill ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bill Pechter | 17 Meredith Drive Tinton Falls, NJ 07724 | 732-389-3592 pech...@lakewood.com | Save computing history, give an old geek old hardware. This msg brought to you by the letters PDP and the number 11.
From: d...@news.daedalus.co.nz (Don Stokes) Subject: Re: a stupid question Date: 1997/10/20 Message-ID: <62ea6c$qn2@wnnews1.netlink.net.nz>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 281872090 References: <199710192334.TAA18669@i4got.lakewood.com> Organization: Daedalus Consulting Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11 In article <199710192334.TAA18...@i4got.lakewood.com>, Bill Pechter <pech...@lakewood.com> wrote: >> Well, it may be silly to ask, but I'd like to know >> what OSs ran on members of the MicroPDP-family... >RSX11, RSX11M+, RSTS/E, IAS (Probably), RT11, V7M11 (Probably) >(later named Ultrix-11), BSD v2.x. Note that current versions of 2BSD need split I/D, which precludes the MicroPDP-11/23 (which is probably what it is/was if the badge just says MicroPDP-11). Also, there was Micro/RSX (based on RSX-11M-PLUS) and Micro/RSTS -- basically repackages of the OSs for bigger systems without a SYSGEN requirement. -- Don Stokes, Networking Consultant http://www.daedalus.co.nz +64 25 739 724 Network Design, Cable Plans, LANs, WANs, Radio Networks, Internet Consulting
From: Varga Akos Endre <hams...@pc0176sd.sysdata.siemens.at> Subject: Re: a stupid question Date: 1997/10/20 Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.971020111348.4543D-100000@pc0176sd.sysdata.siemens.at>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 281937787 References: <199710192334.TAA18669@i4got.lakewood.com> <62ea6c$qn2@wnnews1.netlink.net.nz> Reply-To: hams...@netweb.hu To: Don Stokes <d...@news.daedalus.co.nz> Organization: Siemens AG Austria Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11 On 20 Oct 1997, Don Stokes wrote: > Note that current versions of 2BSD need split I/D, which precludes the > MicroPDP-11/23 (which is probably what it is/was if the badge just says > MicroPDP-11). Also, there was Micro/RSX (based on RSX-11M-PLUS) and > Micro/RSTS -- basically repackages of the OSs for bigger systems without > a SYSGEN requirement. Okay, so I can't run BSD on the /23, how about the /53, /73, /83? Akos Varga hams...@netweb.hu
From: Varga Akos Endre <hams...@pc0176sd.sysdata.siemens.at> Subject: Re: a stupid question Date: 1997/10/20 Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.971020095424.3621C-100000@pc0176sd.sysdata.siemens.at>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 281994161 X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List Organization: Info-Pdp11<==>Vmsnet.Pdp-11 Gateway Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11 > > Well, it may be silly to ask, but I'd like to know > > what OSs ran on members of the MicroPDP-family... > > > RSX11, RSX11M+, RSTS/E, IAS (Probably), RT11, V7M11 (Probably) > (later named Ultrix-11), BSD v2.x. Hm, thanks, and what members exactly were UNIXable? Akos Varga hams...@netweb.hu
From: Bill Pechter <pech...@lakewood.com> Subject: Re: a stupid question Date: 1997/10/20 Message-ID: <199710201213.IAA20219@i4got.lakewood.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 281970864 X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List Organization: Info-Pdp11<==>Vmsnet.Pdp-11 Gateway Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11 > > > Well, it may be silly to ask, but I'd like to know > > > what OSs ran on members of the MicroPDP-family... > > > > > RSX11, RSX11M+, RSTS/E, IAS (Probably), RT11, V7M11 (Probably) > > (later named Ultrix-11), BSD v2.x. > > Hm, thanks, and what members exactly were UNIXable? > > Akos Varga > hams...@netweb.hu > > Every PDP11 was Unixable -- the problem is it depended on which Unix version. V6 and V7 would probably run on all the 11/40, 11/45, 11/50, 11/55 11/60, 11/44 and 11/70 machines and probably the 11/23's as well -- if you had a boot device that was supported and the kernel sources. BSD ran on all the 11's with memory management through v2.9. The 2.11 release requires (I think) seperate I and D space). Bill ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bill Pechter | 17 Meredith Drive Tinton Falls, NJ 07724 | 732-389-3592 pech...@lakewood.com | Save computing history, give an old geek old hardware. This msg brought to you by the letters PDP and the number 11.
From: Varga Akos Endre <hams...@pc0176sd.sysdata.siemens.at> Subject: What OSs ran on what 11s (and what un*xes...) Date: 1997/10/20 Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.971020154152.6540A-100000@pc0176sd.sysdata.siemens.at>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 281989157 References: <199710201213.IAA20219@i4got.lakewood.com> To: Bill Pechter <pech...@lakewood.com> Organization: Siemens AG Austria Reply-To: hams...@netweb.hu Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11 Okay, so my question was inproper, inaccurate, and everything... :) > BSD ran on all the 11's with memory management through v2.9. The 2.11 > release requires (I think) seperate I and D space). Yes, the question was really about I/D spaces and memory management. I'd like to make a nice little table about 11s and the OSs that ran on them, and I'd like to be as close to the truth, as I can be...:) So I'd appreciate any help:) Akos Varga hams...@netweb.hu
From: Bill Pechter <pech...@lakewood.com> Subject: Re: a stupid question Date: 1997/10/20 Message-ID: <199710201217.IAA20249@i4got.lakewood.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 281994487 X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List Organization: Info-Pdp11<==>Vmsnet.Pdp-11 Gateway Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11 > On 20 Oct 1997, Don Stokes wrote: > > > Note that current versions of 2BSD need split I/D, which precludes the > > MicroPDP-11/23 (which is probably what it is/was if the badge just says > > MicroPDP-11). Also, there was Micro/RSX (based on RSX-11M-PLUS) and > > Micro/RSTS -- basically repackages of the OSs for bigger systems without > > a SYSGEN requirement. > > Okay, so I can't run BSD on the /23, how about the /53, /73, /83? > > Akos Varga > hams...@netweb.hu > > Those should work if you've got a supported boot device. They have seperate I and D space (like the 11/70 they appear to be for most things). The problem is you need a Unix System V or earlier (V7 etc.) source license to get BSD. (I'd be running 2.9 if I could). Bill Pechter running FreeBSD 2.2.2+ with V7 Unix under the Supnik emulator for grins ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bill Pechter | 17 Meredith Drive Tinton Falls, NJ 07724 | 732-389-3592 pech...@lakewood.com | Save computing history, give an old geek old hardware. This msg brought to you by the letters PDP and the number 11.
From: Varga Akos Endre <hams...@pc0176sd.sysdata.siemens.at> Subject: Re: a stupid question Date: 1997/10/20 Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.971020155809.6540B-100000@pc0176sd.sysdata.siemens.at>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 282017771 References: <199710201217.IAA20249@i4got.lakewood.com> To: Bill Pechter <pech...@lakewood.com> Organization: Siemens AG Austria Reply-To: hams...@netweb.hu Newsgroups: vmsnet.pdp-11 > The problem is you need a Unix System V or earlier (V7 etc.) source > license to get BSD. (I'd be running 2.9 if I could). Hm, I saw something on the PDP Unix Preservation Society's web page, is there a chance of free UNIX source licenses? What is the use of the binary license? Is it for the emulators? Akos Varga hams...@netweb.hu