Re: Joomla 1.1 and SEO improvements

Reply #38 on: January 13, 2006, 12:43:24 AM

vavroom
Joomla! Hero

Yes absalom, this is nice.

I think we have to be careful also to look at permalink in terms of on one's own site, rather than some of the trackback links that are used to submit stuff to other sites...


Re: Joomla 1.1 and SEO improvements

Reply #37 on: January 12, 2006, 11:07:07 PM

absalom
D&A Workgroup
Joomla! Hero

More on this..

I adore the way Wordpress (WP) does permalink SEF goodness:
i.e.
http://codex.wordpress.org/Using_Permalinks

Not only does it give users the freedom to customise SEF, it means they can generate URLs in a fairly simplified format. Enter a rule format and the SEF will manage the rest for you.

This means better functionality, and if we had something similar for J! perhaps we might be able to get stable permalinks / trackbacks / pingbacks then..

Edit: get the URI right


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Re: Joomla 1.1 and SEO improvements

Reply #35 on: January 12, 2006, 05:07:25 PM

vavroom
Joomla! Hero

@zorro, thanks for the feedback.  Is there anyway you could give us a "readers digest" of those links?  I'm trying NOT to have to read everything about all the CMS out there, really running out of time.  A user's perspective is *fine*, we just want to know what the other systems are doing, not *how*


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Re: Joomla 1.1 and SEO improvements

Reply #32 on: January 12, 2006, 04:00:15 AM

Zorro
Jr. Member

Quote from: vavroom on December 30, 2005, 07:27:20 PM

DRAFT
Suggestion Summary
Generate “human friendly” URLs

[...]

How other systems handle this


Drupal: http://drupal.org/handbook/modules/path and http://drupal.org/node/15365

ModX: couldn't find any online docs for SEF URLs at http://modxcms.com/ but it's a fork of Etomite which has some basic user information here: http://www.etomite.org/wiki/EtomiteDocumentation/OtherGuides/FriendlyURLs?v=1d3q

CMS Made Simple: http://www.cmsmadesimple.org/moduleinterface.php?module=Glossary&id=m3&m3action=show&m3cat=Tips+%26+Tricks&m3tid=11&m3returnid=63

BlogCMS: http://blogcms.com/admin/documentation/tips.html#searchengines-fancyurls

I'm afraid I can't contribute any more than a user's point of view on these since I'm not a developer.

Kind regards,
Zorro

Re: Joomla 1.1 and SEO improvements

Reply #31 on: January 11, 2006, 08:22:55 PM

vavroom
Joomla! Hero

Thanks Atropos.  I also feel the issues have been outlined properly, but next, it's a question of fleshing out each request so there is no way that anyone could decide one of them isn't important.  In other words, the final proposal has to be so solid that no one can breach it

Hopefully, we'll get it done


Re: Joomla 1.1 and SEO improvements

Reply #30 on: January 11, 2006, 08:16:39 PM

Atropos
Full Member

Well,

Honestly I think those DRAFTS you made cover the main issues people have with Joomla and SEO. If those changes were implemented it would improve Joomla's SEO capabilities 1000%.

I understand you need more clear, concise input from other community members but I personally feel like you covered all the issues I have with Joomla and SEO in those DRAFTS.

Keep up the good work.


Re: Joomla 1.1 and SEO improvements

Reply #29 on: January 11, 2006, 08:08:59 PM

vavroom
Joomla! Hero

Thanks Atropos.  It's as clear and concise as I could get it, alas, it's not complete.  I was hoping that other people would come in and participate, help with providing information, particularly as to how other systems handle each issue.  But it looks like I've been left almost entirely alone to do this (thanks to those who *have* given input).

I actually blew the deadline and shall extend it, and perhaps try to get some traffic to this post somehow.  At this point, I don't know what the status of the individual items are.


Re: Joomla 1.1 and SEO improvements

Reply #28 on: January 11, 2006, 07:54:36 PM

Atropos
Full Member

Great Job organising all the information Nic. It is very clear and concise.

Just curious on the status of these features. I think every single one you drafted would be a great addition to the next version. Are any of these changes going to be made for 1.1? I know you said you were going to submit these recommendations to the core team by January 7th. What was the verdict?

I think this thread is excellent because it highlights very important features relevant to SEO in Joomla. I am just hoping some of these changes get done